A well-argued piece from @slightlyoff as to why we need to bring more capability to web, and why the privacy concerns brought up by Mozilla and Apple are kind of a red herring.
My brief time in W3C-land was filled with people yelling 'but fingerprinting!' any time someone proposed something useful. (Fingerprinting is the idea that the more features your browser exposes, the easier it is for a third party to track you as an individual collection of features.)
Maybe this is just my own personal bias, though: I still see the web as the "last open platform," or at least the last open platform that ~100% of computing users have access to. Bringing more capabilities to this platform, to make it competitive with proprietary walled gardens, seems like a net benefit to me.
The alternative seems like the status quo of "download our app" or "click to install this MSI/EXE" which seems indefensible from any angle, including privacy/security.
This is the sort of post that only gets written by a BigCo employee when shit is *seriously* messed up; risks were taken:
@reillyeon I'm becoming pretty sure that any action I take, every message I reply to, any task I complete... generates *at least* one more. :)
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I've been donating to #Mozilla couple euros each month since I can remember. I wasn't using #Firefox on a daily basis so this was my contribution to making sure there is a viable alternative #browser and browser #engine.
I'll cancel my donation because Firefox apparently decided not to keep up and idly watch while proprietary native apps are eating the web and just #Chromium-based browsers keep actually fighting for the only ubiquitous #open #platform we have.
@slightlyoff Since when is the decision to not implement something a "difficult compromise"?
Mozilla hiding behind Apple's skirt to ensure the web can't compete is some real 2020 shit:
@nolan You're right, probably had a really old version of everything from the last time I accessed dev., sorry. :)
@nolan Not sure it supports themes as intended?
Just wondering if it has something to do with the 30% cut they get from the App Store. 🤔
Why innovate when you can block commoditized open technologies from competing with your cash cow?
Apple mustn't be the gatekeeper of tech evolution. There are standard groups (e.g. @tag) consisting of (and cooperating with) extremely smart people from diverse backgrounds who have your web privacy and security on their mind, not Apple's bottom line.
#Apple finally admitted in writing they hold the web to much higher #privacy standard than apps in their own app store.
If you don't want to try to make these APIs available to #web apps in a safe way, fine, but don't block users from installing other browsers then.
@tomayac So they are finally admitting in writing they are holding the web to much higher privacy standard than their native apps and won't let anyone else to make different tradeoffs either?
@sesivany Well, internet also applauds Apple for allowing iOS users to open links in rebranded versions of Safari (that they assume are completely different browsers like Firefox) by default after 10 years... 🤷🏻♂️
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